You're completely missing one HUGE point. I threw them out there as opinions, not as factual statements. Nor did I ever claim that others should take my opinion as fact. Once I do that, feel free to challenge me. Have I asked ANY other single member who loves the album, to prove to me that it's NOT shit? Nope. Now you're being hypocritical because what would people say if I came in and posted "Don't throw out your claims of it being genius or creative if you don't want them challenged." The difference is that I never challenged anyone as to why they like them. I simply stated that I don't agree. I need no explanation as to why others DO love the band, but you seem to need me to write a book explaining why I don't. I already explained why in my op, so why do you keep questioning? Let it go, or say what you wish. I'm done responding about it, but you're taking it way too personally.