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Veil of Maya - Members Only [Single] (2019)

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Awh hell yeah, this is amazing. 

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production is flat as fuck. where's the lows?

 

lukas sounds great tho. also, 2:10 on is:pizza:

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Strange things-core got me hype.

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21 minutes ago, Kaddisfly said:

production is flat as fuck. where's the lows?

 

lukas sounds great tho. also, 2:10 on is:pizza:

Agreed. Production hasn't been good since their 3rd album. 

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22 minutes ago, Kaddisfly said:

production is flat as fuck. where's the lows?

 

lukas sounds great tho. also, 2:10 on is:pizza:

Literally my first thought. Sounds super thin at parts. 

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Agreed. Production hasn't been good since their 3rd album. 

Eclipse will always have their best production. ID a close second.

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Just now, Crowing51 said:

Literally my first thought. Sounds super thin at parts. 

Eclipse will always have their best production. ID a close second.

Eclipse was good. I have a soft spot for the first album tho. 

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OMG THEY BACK BOIS N GALS!

5 minutes ago, Crowing51 said:

Literally my first thought. Sounds super thin at parts. 

Eclipse will always have their best production. ID a close second.

I agree. I love False Idols but man does the production suck. I don't spin it much soley because of that reason. I want a remastered version. Hell, I want them to find a new producer... 

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I fucking love this, it's so groovy and melodic <3 
The electronic bits fit
Only flaw is...the production, kind of, I mean, it's not terrible or bad, it's just
MYEH :D (again)

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sheeeesh thats a nasty ass breakdown. uhhm but I dont like the bridge tbh :\

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Reminds me of Periphery, but I don't know shit about VoM apart from last album

That breakdown is hella tasty tho, I'm thristy for more

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1 hour ago, Romulan Mercy said:

Still using clean vocals and sounds nothing like TCMC, no thanks.

They can't make the same album with the same sound over and over again

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1 hour ago, Romulan Mercy said:

Still using clean vocals and sounds nothing like TCMC, no thanks.

Why would it sound like TCMC? That album is 11 years old :lol:

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False Idol was one of my AOTYs in 2017, this is sick, I’m so happy

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25 minutes ago, Maximo said:

False Idol was one of my AOTYs in 2017, this is sick, I’m so happy

same

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6 hours ago, Kaddisfly said:

production is flat as fuck. where's the lows?

 

lukas sounds great tho. also, 2:10 on is:pizza:

I think Taylor Larson did this album (not 100% but he's posted on Instagram about it), he butchered the mix on ERRA - Neon too. I don't actually have an issue with this mix but I agree that it's fairly flat. 

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Waking up to this made this day 100% better.

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YES, YES, YES AND YES!! Never expected this to come out! I love everything about this! False Idols being my AOTY 2 years ago, this makes me really happy. I mean, come on! there's a SYNTH SOLO!

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6 hours ago, Romulan Mercy said:

Still using clean vocals and sounds nothing like TCMC, no thanks.

 

Totally agree. I’ve been a fan since TCMC. Heck, I still remember picking that up at my local record store back in ‘08. 

 

I don’t like the direction they’ve taken since the last album - The cleans are generic and there’s too many other bands doing the same thing.

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4 hours ago, feelstowaltz said:

I think Taylor Larson did this album (not 100% but he's posted on Instagram about it), he butchered the mix on ERRA - Neon too. I don't actually have an issue with this mix but I agree that it's fairly flat. 

 

Yes Taylor did this album. He last did Matriarch with them. On a good sound system it isn't flat. I think what most people here are referring to as "the lows" or "flat" is the lack of gurth that say False Idol had on the recording. The lows are very present in the mix of this song. Just this song's mix is more well balanced.

 

The reason that it is perceived as "flat" or the lack of "lows" is due to the fact that they tuned the guitars different, and are using different distortions and effects for the guitars versus say False Idol or Matriarch.

 

I didn't love his Neon Mix. It was well balanced, but lacked the gurth that say Augment had. But Drift wasn't also well recorded either. But this song's mix does sound similar to his mix on Neon.

 

My only gripe with his mix on this song would be that it is a little quiet. Overall I like how balanced it is. Sure it lacks the "gurth" of the guitars, but I'm ok with that. And this is one song. Maybe the gurth is there on other songs.

 

 

10 hours ago, Crowing51 said:

Literally my first thought. Sounds super thin at parts. 

Eclipse will always have their best production. ID a close second.

 

I haven't listened to anything from VoM before Matriarch. So I went and fired up the Eclipse album. That mix is just ok. It is quite muddy.  [ID] mix is awful. Thus making the point that I made above. It isn't the actual production that people say they like. It's the way that they recorded the guitars with the low tuning and gurthy effects that people like. Whereas the way Taylor mixed the guitars on this song sounds like the way he mixed the guitars on Neon.

 

The perfect album I can use as a point of reference is The Death of Greeley Estates by Greeley Estates. If you listen to Straitjacket and you like the sound of the guitars then you like the "gurth" of the guitars. Because that is probably one of the worst produced and mixed albums of any band that doesn't record out of their garage that I have ever heard in my life. And I love Greeley.

 

I wouldn't say that VoM has had a great produced/mixed album. But the one that I think has been the best produced/mixed for their sound is probably False Idol. I like the guitar sounds a touch better than I do on Matriarch.

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